An interview with a Romanian trade union leader, president of the Federation of Free Trade Unions of Romania affiliated to the National Trade Union Bloc, about just transition in Romania, the attitude of trade unions towards it, the socio-economic situation in the Jiu Valley, expectations for a redefinition of the Green Pact in the Trump 2.0 era, discussions on a new economic model for development in Romania and to what extent a sovereignist president or government could provide a positive change in development policies